BarroMetrics Views: Stops and their Use II

With the interest in the “Stops and their Use”, I thought I’d cover the topic a little more fully.

I believe hard stops (i.e. stops that are in the market) placed are necessary to guard against catastrophic loss. I place my stops at a point beyond which I am not prepared to accept more loss whatever I may think the market is doing.  This stop is partially technical and partially statistical.

  • Technical: I place a stop where if hit, my reason for the trade is invalidated.  I also incorporate Maximum Adverse Excursion.
  • Statistical: The stop needs to be within my money management guidelines. These are governed by my Expectancy Return, the volatility of the market (as measured by the Average True Range [ATR]) and tic value of the instrument. The size of the position is also determined by my assessment of the stage I am in: Flow, Normal or Ebb.

If my technical stop exceeds my guidelines, I pass on the trade.

But stops are not the only way I exit trades. I also use time and structural stops.

By time stops, I mean that for some trades, I set a specific number of days that a trade needs to move mean +1 ATR from entry. The time is set according to the Maximum Adverse Excursion concept (but based on time rather than price) and my assessment of the context.

By structural stops, I mean what the market should not do given the setup (reason)  for the trade. My setups have certain price action that ought not to  occur if I have read the conditions for the trade correctly.

The problem for the novice trader (and he is the person I am trying to reach in my educational activities) is time and structural stops require experience; this experience the novice has not acquired.  So for him,  using subjective exits is tantamount to committing trading suicide.

Tomorrow I’ll address the idea of ‘hedging’. While I would never attempt to dissuade anyone from a behaviour that works for him, ‘hedging’ is a subject on which I have strong views.

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